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Renato Vesco

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                                Al Pinto

We, because of the infinitesimal size of the Universe, can quite easily say that 
the probability of the Earth being the only planet inhabited by intelligent 
beings is not logical.  However, while there is research going on today inorder 
to prove the existence of extraterrestrial intelligence (SETI) by listening in 
on the radio waves of space, I wonder; have we been contacted already? Is there 
something in the UFO phenomenon that proves the existence of extraterrestrials? 
Let's look at the facts.
Thousands of people from all around the world report the sightings of strange 
aerial phenomenon every year. It has been going on for many years, but not as 
much as from 1947 to present.  Due to the fact that so many people have seen 
objects in the sky that they can't identify, we could at least admit that there 
is sufficient reason to believe that UFO's exist. We can't scientifically prove 
their existence just based on that fact but we can't ignore it either. So our 
next logical step would be to get more data. 
Is the origin of all UFO's extraterrestrial? Is there a possibiliy that at
least some may come from Earth and Earth technology? The answer to that question 
is yes, some are Earth originated. People can easily mistake a plane or 
helicopter flying at night as a UFO and have already. Some even thought that 
Venus was one. However, while most UFO's could be explained, there are an 
astonishing number of reports that cannot. They include reports from people such 
as police chiefs, scientists, pilots, and most interestingly, astronauts. There 
is plenty of information publically available that is reputable about details of 
their encounters. Our next step should be to concentrate on these unexplainable 
sightings. Out of these, is it still possible that the object could come from 
Earth? Dr. Renato Vesco thought so. In his book Intercept UFO, he writes about 
his experience and information with Nazi Germany. I am going to include a paper 
written by him but first let me tell you his credentials.
        Renato Vesco is a fully liscensed aircraft engineer and a specialist         
in aerospace and ramjet developements. He attended the University         of 
Rome and, before WWII, studied at the German Institute for             Aerial 
Developement. During the war, Vesco worked with the                Germans at 
the Fiat Lake Garda secret installations in Italy. In            the 1960's, he 
worked for the Italian Air Ministry of Defense               as an undercover 
technical agent, investigating the UFO mystery.
        He writes:
"On November 27, 1944, a B-27 of the United States Air Force, returning from a 
raid on Speyer, West Germany, encountered a huge, orange colored light moving 
upward at an estimated speed of 500 MPH. When the pilots reported, sector radar 
had reported negatively, because nothing had registered on the screen.
But the object seen by the returning bomber was only the first of numerous 
others spotted by American pilots over wartime Germany and promptly baptized 
'foo-fighters.' Fighter pilots Falls and Backer. of the 415th Squadron, reported 
such an encounter a month later forcing the Air Force to admit that such objects 
might exist. Later encounters with foo fighters led experts to assume they were 
German inventions of a new order employed to baffle radar.
How close they came to the truth, they learned only when the war was over and 
Allied Intelligence teams moved into the secret Nazi plants. The foo-fighters 
seen by American pilots were only a minor demonstration, a
fraction of a vast variety of methods used to confuse radar and interrupt 
electro magnetic currents.  Work on the German anti-radar Feurball, or fireball, 
had been speeded up during the fall of 1944 at a Luftwaffe experimental center 
near Oberammergau, Bavaria. There, and at the aeronautical establishment at 
Weiner Neustadt, the first fireballs were produced. Later, when the Russians 
moved closer to Austria, the workshops producing the fireballs were moved to 
Black Forest. Fast and remote controlled, the fireballs, equipped with kliston 
tubes and operating on the same frequency as Allied radar, could eliminate the 
blips from screens and remain practically invisible to ground control.

The Nazi Feurball failed to interfere with the Allied air offensive. The foo 
fighters had been launched too late and could no longer change the course of 
events, but in themselves they were significant not only because they were the 
outcome of a technical evolution which could have led to more dangerous weapons, 
but also because they showed that Nazi technology had moved in a direction far 
beyond anything expected by Allied Intelligence.

As the fall of Germany approached, the Nazi Leaders reverted to an ambitious 
project created by Gauleiter Franz Hofer who had become high commissioner for 
the Italian Tyrol and the Southern Alps. The project foresaw setting up an 
incredible fortress in the mountains, including parts of Italy, Austria and 
Bavaria. Hofer submitted his plan to Hitler's aide, Martin Bormann in November 
1944, but he had prepared for this moment back in 1938 when Nazi agents 
carefully mapped all mountain passes, caves, bridges, highways, and located 
sights for underground factories, munitions dumps, arms and food caches. To 
complete work on this fortress, Hofer demanded a slave labor force of a quarter 
of a million- 70% Austrian workers and 30% men of the Tyrolese home guard.
So-called U-Plants were to be set up underground as gigantic workshops and 
launching pads for the secret weopons which were to turn the tide of the war in 
favor of the Nazis. Among these were some 74 tunnels along Lake Garda, in 
Northern Italy, which were to be adapted and transformed into a vast assembly 
plant by FIAT of Turin in close collaboration with the department of Minister 
Albert Speer. Seven other tunnels along Lake Garda, near Limone, were to produce 
several weapons tested at the Hermann Goering Institute of Riva del Garda.

According to the archives of the German High Command and of the Allied Combined 
Intelligence Objectives Sub-Committee, other plants in vital areas of Central 
Germany, code named M-Werke, were to produce powerful missles such as the giant 
A.9/A.10 destined to destroy New York and Washington. But most important was the 
Alpine area, for it was from there that the supreme weapons were to come.

This report, never released by the Allies, was made by a French diplomat. It was 
forwarded to Free French Intelligence Headquarters at Algiers. The top secret 
report reffered to the blue clouds as something approaching anti-aircraft 
projectiles based on the grisou (fire damp) gas found in mines, and which had 
been succesfully tried against other bombers over Lake Garda. The French report 
was intercepted by Italian agents and deciphered at SID (Italian Counter-
Intelligence) Headquarters at Castiglione della Stiviere. The message was later 
captured by a military intelligence team operating for the eighth Army in Italy.
The contents of the message was no novelty to the Allies. Already, some time 
ago, shortly after the bombing of Dresden, British and American intelligence had 
obtained a brief account concerning the use of some such weapon used against a 
group of twelve American bombers. That message, which came from an agent in 
Switzerland attached to Allen Dulle's team, also stated the attacker had been a 
"strange hemispherical object which flew at fantastic speeds and destroyed the 
bombers without using firearms.' 

Then, after the German surrender in May, 1945, a team of British agents, 
investigating the files of some of the underground factories in Black Forest, 
discovered that a large number of documents concerned 'important experiments 
made with liquid oxygen for new turbine engines capable of developing 
extraordinary power.'

Other documents described the use of 'gaseous explosives' which had been 
originally tested in Austria in 1936. Their existence was later confirmed by the 
ALSOS Mision and by Dr. Hans Friedrich Gold, of the Laboratory for Aeronautical 
Research at Volkenrode. The ejection of gas explosives had been part of the 
program tackled by researchers on Lake Garda and later tested with success by 
the circular flying object against Allied bombers.
This object, in German military files, already had an operational name: 'Round 
Lightning' (Kugelblitz) 

Long and close observation between the special Air Research Corps of the SS, 
Austrian research centers in Vienna, the Hermann Goering Works and the vast 
complex of underground G-Works had previously produced amazing improvement on 
the fireball or foo-fighter which, despite it's anti-radar effectiveness, 
remained comparatively harmless. But by combining the principle of the aircraft 
with a round, symetrical plane with direct gyroscopic stabilization, employing 
an ejector-gun using grisou and a gelatinous organic/mettalic fuel for a total 
reaction turbine, adding remote control, vehicle take off, infrared seeking 
equipment and electrostatic firing systems, the harmless fireball became the 
lethal Kugelblitz!

Believe me, I can prove what I say. The Kugelblitz, to be on the safe side, 
employed, in addition to it's electrostatic firing system, a similar system 
based on short waves and built by the Patent Verwertungs Gesselschaft of 
Salzburg, Austria. The whole thing formed one compact, round mass which had 
absolutely nothing in common with any flying object ever produced before.

In documents found by British Intelligence teams and submitted to the British 
Intelligence Objectives Sub-Committee-documents which I have been able to study-
these and many other details are known. They can be found in the Sub-Committee's 
Final Report Number 61 on the 'Weapons Section of the L.F.A., Volkenrode.'

Kugelblitz, together with it's "younger brothers of the fireball, lens shaped 
bomb and other weapons, began the real history of the UFO's. In itself, it was a 
second generation fireball.

The 'round lightning' weapon, the incredibly fast and mysterious disk-shaped 
craft that had been rumored and sighted in action, was used only once. As the 
Allied forces crossed the Rhine, the only craft of it's type was destroyed by th 
SS on instructions from Berlin, to prevent it's capture. But ever since, due to 
the severe censorship imposed by 'T' force of the British Army in Germany, and 
later, thanks to the complete blackout imposed by London, nothing more was heard 
of Round Lightning. 

I know that agents of the 'T' force camp at Bad Gandersheim closely examined the 
documents found in the G-Works, documents which had been elaborated by the 
technical general staff of the SS and by technical control of the Henshel and 
Zeppelin works. These documents concern the propulsion unit of the Kugelblitz 
prototype built by the Kreislaufbetrieb Motor D.W. in 1943 for the F.F.K.F. 
(Forschungsinstitut for Kraftfhart and Fahzeugmotoren) at Stuttgart-
Untertuerkheim and perfected by proffessors Kamm and Ernst. The British called 
this motor an 'oxygen recycle system.' It was later abandoned in favor of the 
Walter turbine, powered by hydrogen peroxide. The documents found discussed the 
possibility of using both systems in a compound-type propulsion unit.
To these basic facts, I must add: A mass of documents and equipment were taken 
by British 'T' teams to Bedford and then to Canada and Australia. 

In a certain sense, the British were more intelligent than the Americans, for 
they permitted German scientists to complete their work in Germany on the sight 
where they had worked all through the war-only, of course, under close 
supervision. This happened at Darmstadt and Goettingen. Later on, these 
installations were dismantled and shipped to Britain. The Transport Service of 
the British Ministry of Aviation discreetly shipped the scientists and documents 
to Britain, Canada and Australia, in successive phases. Lists of the scientists 
to be sent overseas had been compiled in the spring of 1944 by the B.I.O.S. and 
formed separate and specialized teams.

One such team, composed of Proffessor Ben Lockspeiser and W.J. Richards, Dr. 
S.H. Hollingdale and Captain A.D. Green, handled 'advanced projects, missles, 
jet and turbine craft.' Another, including T.A. Taylor and M.A. Wheeler, 
investigated German advances in the field of Thermo-refraction. Another team, 
which obtained the services of Dr. Ernst Westermann, former director of the 
F.D.R.P. Institutes of Speyer and Saarbrucken, concentrated on the fireball 

The then Ministry of Aircraft Production, similar to the German wartime 
Jaegerstab, ceased to exist officially on March 31, 1946, amd became part of the 
Ministry of Supply. In the years that followed, these teams, and especially the 
experts headed by Professor Lockspeiser, worked on a multitude of German 
projects, adapting these to their own experiments in the field of 'suction' 
wings and on the work of two German scientists during the war, Professors 
Prandtl and Busemann, to develope a high speed fighter in which the air intake 
along the wings was discharged through a half-moon-shaped crescent along the 
fuselage in order to both drive and support the vehicle at high speeds.

This research comes to mind when one remembers the incident of January 3, 1956. 
A cessna, employed on a job of aerial photography near Pasadena, encountered 
three circular flying objects which circled it at a speed of 1600 mph and at a 
distance of two miles. One of these objects, in suddenly breaking away from the 
formation, gave off a long, vaporous trail as it sped through a cumulous cloud, 
cutting the cloud in two. 'Exactly as if it had sucked up the cloud.,' the 
Cessna pilot exclaimed later.

Back in 1946, the British Broadcasting Corporation announced that Britain 'would 
soon have aircraft capable of speeds well over 1000 mph, that, according to some 
experts, such craft had already been built and that, in the near future, they 
could circumnavigate the globe several times because they needed only fuel for 
take off and landing..' Other British sources mentioned aircraft capable of 
speeds of several thousand miles an hour.

More than twenty years have passed since the otherwise so-eminently-careful BBC 
boasted of 'Britain's planes of the future,' and officially these aircraft still 
remain little more than a dream. And yet, did not Ben Lockspeiser, the man who 
was in charge of the most responsible 'T' teams, declare that 'such craft would 
need no fuel?' Did he not imply  that such craft would gain their own propellant 
from the atmosphere by suction and expulsion?  

On June 26, 1953, an intensely luminous flying object majestically crossed the 
night sky of Albacete, Spain, at an altitude of 60 miles. In Britain, scientific 
papers produced by members of the 'T' teams showed suggestive titles such as 
'Boundary Layer Flow Over a Permeable Surface Through Which Suction is Applied' 
(J.H. Preston), 'The Aerodynamics of Porous Sheets' by G.J. Taylor, and 
Pankhurst's Aerofoil Catalogue.

In 1959, aeronautical engineer N.S. Currey wrote: 'Canada today must be counted 
among the most advanced aeronautical powers in the world,' and added cautiously, 
'This refers above all to the field of jet propulsion.'

The Canadian Department of Mines and the Technical Surveys Mapping Branch 
reserved a vast area-125,000 square miles-for production of experimental 
aircraft. This was one of the decisions reached by the committees of the 
Commonwealth Conference on Aeronautical Research. This desolate, heavily woooded 
and mountainous region between British Columbia and Alberta, with the Peace 
River district as it's Northern frontier and Washington State to the South, was 
an ideal location-few and easily controlled roads, few settlements, few 
railroads, but good communications in the north and the south via the trunk line 
from Prince George to Edmonton and that from Vancouver to the United States 
border, and only one major highway, te Alaska.

Britain already had considerable wartime experiance in this sort of enterprise. 
In 1942, at the height of the German raids, the RAF had set up five secret 
airports in the very heart of the New Forest, in Hampshire. The big thing about 
these installations was the fact that they included complete industrial plants, 
decentralizing major groups essential for war production. They were called 
'shade workshops.' The Germans, too, had much experience in this field. One of 
their major plants at Volkenrode resisted all attempts at aerial identification 
throughout the war.

Neither the British nor the Americans, on an official level, saw eye to eye in 
scientific matters at the close of the war against Germany and afterward. The 
United States' refusal to share atomic secrets with Britain was never quite 
forgotten in Whitehall, and Britain set out to prove, with Canada, that she was 
well able to produce her own fission bomb. If Congress steadfastly accused the 
British of giving little or nothing in return for information, the British felt 
they had been mistrusted and severely neglected. They preferred to go ahead with 
their plans in Canada.

The fact that the area has been photographed again and again by high altitude 
reconnaissance planes, both U.S. and Russian, does not perturb the Canadian or 
British authorities. The plants and saucer ports are underground, hidden in 
primeval forests of Columbia.

The question immediately arises: Why have not Britain and Canada made such craft 
available to their other partners in the North Atlantic Treaty Organization? I 
believe there may be many answers to such a question, but one of the main points 
is this: Lack of confidence and fear of being exploited remain rife among the 
nations, as they are among people. And why should not Britain and her 
Commonwealth partner retain one major trump card which, one day, may become 
invaluable? The pooling of scientific secrets is rarely entirely sincere.

All the evidence, all the know how of British scientists before and during the 
last war, combined with the astounding progress in propulsion and the 
discoveries in suction aircraft of the Germans, based on 18 years of research 
into the most secret documents of the past war, have convinced me of one thing: 
The flying saucers do not come from space. They come from a few hundred miles 
outside the United States. They mean no harm, and Washington knows this. Hence 
the long standing order to all U.S. Air Force pilots: Intercept--but do not fire 

This article, which appeared in Argosy Magazine in August, 1969, is reprinted 
above in it's entirety. It is important because it is one of the few reports 
that goes into detail about the revolutionary technical advancements made by the 
Nazi's in the field of aeronautical research.     
Unfortunately, Vesco doesn't offer any real substantiation for the existence of 
the Kugelblitz, which is the crux of his subject. However, in his book 
Intercept, UFO, he tells us that the Kugelblitz was indeed tested some time in 
February, 1945 over the great underground complex at Kahla, in Thuringia. Both 
the Kugelblitz and the Feurball were then destroyed by the retreating S.S. 

So, could this story be considered fact? We have to take into consideration a 
number of issues. First and foremost, there is the Nazi's.
Could they have been developing craft of such advancement? History has it that 
not only were they at war, which required much in the way of manpower, but they 
took on incredible projects such as constructing huge underground complexes at 
Nordhausen in the Harz mountains, Pennemunde and others. They also had their 
Naval Vessals provide support for a very detailed study of the Antartic in which 
they were alleged to have been building underground bases there as well. 

General Heinrich Himmler, the Reichsfuhrer as his S.S. men would call him, was 
quite frankly, a madman. He believed in obediance, controlled breeding and 
vivisection of homans. He believed in biological mutation and what could be 
produced with it. He used the slaves for his work force, as well as specimens 
for research. 

Let's discuss this possibility more in the message boards in Paranet and the UFO 
echos. I am starting to get quite tired of the theory that UFO's and related 
matters, are extraterrestrial. It is being shoved down our throats by figures 
like "Falcon" and "Condor" as well as articles in Paranet like MUGGER.DOC and 
PICNIC2.DOC. As a matter of fact, that is about all I hear anymore. It seems 
that since we want to hear about EBE's, the so-called, Intelligence Community, 
is giving us just what we want to hear. 

I call on each and every person in the UFO community to research, in debth, 
HUMAN history. In particular, great scientists such as, Tesla and his 
experiments; Einstein's theories; Germany's secret weapons of the Second World 
War by R. Lusar; the Philadelphia Experiment; Admiral Byrd's Project Highjump; 
books and periodicals about Nazi Germany and their interest in Antartica; then 
tell me that the possibility of technology (Earth Technology) could not possibly 
exist that could explain UFO's and the reason why it is above top secret.

                     t documents of the past war, have convinced me of one 
thing: The flying saucers do not come from space. They come from a few hu 

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